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Facebook Google Twitter Remember. CZ Eddie , Jorgens , Mfusick and 32 others like this. Last edited by MlNDBOMB; at What do you do if you are running Windows X64 and MPC-HCx64??? It looks like they have 64 bit installer and drivers AMD X4 ATI mb 4gb memory 6tb HDD's. It should work fine, even if you are on a 64 bit windows, you should still be able to run 32 bit versions of everything mentioned just fine. Originally Posted by MlNDBOMB because there is no 64 bit version of some of the software, the only option is to use a 32 bit version of everything.

There are a lot of questions on how much, if any, madvr and other settings improve video quality.

Can you post some side by side comparisons so people can whether these changes are real or placebo? Right now I'm using MPC-HC on it's own no separate filters like SHARK or FFD Show installed. I need to decode internally and send all audio to my receiver in LPCM I only have a HDMI 1. Can you show me the configuration menu in the correct settings? Thanks for the praise assassin. I really appreciate it coming from a fellow writer of htpc guides. As for madvr, here is my take on that: The difference is pretty subtle in real life cases there are some test patterns that come with madvr that show some pretty big differences imo though , but it is a fact that it offers very advanced luma and chroma scaling options, as well as an advanced RGB conversion, so if you have the gear, and I think a lot of ppl nowadays do, why not?

Related questions I am sure ppl are wondering about - why no mention of lav cuvid or dxva? Well, I wanted to focus on just one method that works with the greatest amount of videos as well as worked on the greatest amount of hardware ie not specific to nvidia graphics cards , so I stuck with software decoding. DXVA and Cuvid are both good ways to decode as well, with their own pros and cons.

Originally Posted by bimmerfreak0 Ok Originally Posted by MlNDBOMB Alright, i think i understand what you want. If you insist on using 64 bit software, don't use ffdshow audio processor, since that is only necessary because of using wasapi exclusive mode with reclock, and there is no 64 bit version of reclock so you will use system default as your audio renderer.

Configure lav audio to bitstream DD, then copy over the dtsdecoderdll. I don't believe you can have it set up so that you are bitstreaming DTS but decoding DTSHD, but this should provide equivalent results. Since you are not using kernel streaming or wasapi, I would also make sure windows has set the default mode for your sound device at 24 bit and 48khz, and I would make sure you have configured your speakers correctly in windows.

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Kev Greenhalgh likes this. Originally Posted by MlNDBOMB As for madvr, here is my take on that: Originally Posted by bimmerfreak0 Thankyou for the clarification I am still in the dark ages. I have been there. Brian Hampton , Kev Greenhalgh and pcp7 like this. Curious, is madvr better than ffdshow? No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps! For rgb conversion, yes, cause it has 16 bit processing, while ffdshow has 11 bit processing.

Also, they are fundamentally different in that madvr works on the gpu, and ffdshow works on cpu.

Originally Posted by MlNDBOMB For rgb conversion, yes, cause it has 16 bit processing, while ffdshow has 11 bit processing. Originally Posted by pokekevin Hmmm i do like the ability to run on the gpu but so far ffdshow hasnt given me any problems Hmmm really worth changing? Originally Posted by steelman Might have picked this up wrongly, but doesn't MadVR only work on the GPU for Nvidia cards?

YOu can say that this guide is an analytical-enough guide rather than Advanced. Originally Posted by assassin Well to play devil's advocate Because it can be a royal pita if you are not a "Type A" tinkerer. I think to go through all of these settings, codec changes, software changes, etc to get at most a "subtle" improvement for many may not be warranted.

But I have been on AVS long enough to know that there will be a parade of people that shout from the mountaintops that a HTPC isn't worth a damn unless you have everything setup to the max such as "X" discrete video card, "perfect 24p" if that even exists , Madvr or whatever the flavor of the quarter is, etc.

I used to be like this. Now I just want to sit down on my couch and enjoy my HTPC. I don't care anymore about the constant tinkering.

I think that the whole point of a HTPC is to enjoy high quality high definition media at your fingertips. So for those people your guide is great. And for those of you who want to tinker this should help out immensely. In my case im using a Nvidia GTM -Kevin. Power consumption differences are negligible. It's possible that the overall power consumption will be lower with a fast software decoder. For beginners, I agree that it can be a headache to learn and set everything up.

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I also agree that the difference is subtle, but many of us here at AVS are willing to spend the extra bucks or are willing to learn how to set MPC up the 'ideal' way to get those subtle improvements. Anyway, good guide mb. MadVR may use GPU shaders on NVidia or ATI, but with my HD, and MadVR enabled in MPC-HC, I get appalling stutter during HD MKV playback.

Strangely, MPEG-2 HD MKV's are fine, but I guess the CPU demands are far less for this. X MKV's stutter like crazy, and VC1's often don't play at all black screen. Switch back to EVR, and everything's fine.

Also, I've always steered clear of codec packs and ffdshow. Are the post-processing benefits that noticable? All my HD MKV's have FLAC audio anyway output over analog, so I might only need MadFLAC.

Originally Posted by assassin Now I just want to sit down on my couch and enjoy my HTPC. The differences are shorter. Even an isf calibrator or a discrete video processor like lumagen can not do these kind of miracles. The 60 to 90 jump is just the ability to actually play files.

After that, its You can do something similar to what madVR does with ffdshow or other filters, by using a high-quality RGB conversion algorithm. Note that i didn't specify any filters there Between the "default" RGB conversion in EVR, and a High-Quality conversion from ffdshow or madVR, there is a visible difference. Its not a day and night difference, but it is visible.

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I could quote alot of cases where people used their old and trusted setup for ages, then switched to some new settings, some new filters, and they did actually notice a improvement. Anyway, my main point was that even an advanced setup does not require constant tinkering. An extended initial setup?

But after that, its all about enjoying the content. Something i forgot to mention is of course the increased hardware requirements. For example, the iGPU in Intels CPUs is not fast enough to fully enjoy madVR, but because the CPU itself is fast, using ffdshow to improve the image quality is a viable alternative. Of course they cannot. This is about processing the material very close to the source. Something a ISF guy or a stand-alone processor can do is after the video has actually been converted for output.

If that conversion is done badly, there is only so much an external device can do to improve it again. Improving the initial conversion will yield the best benefits.

Maybe thats just me, but i do believe that if someone wants a HTPC, they should actually be ready to invest at least some time into the initial setup. Otherwise, what benefits does it get them over a finished solution? I have a HTPC so that i have control over what happens.

If i just wanted playback, i wouldn't bother with a HTPC which uses more power then any standalone device and eats up so much of my time.

Originally Posted by tman Also, I've always steered clear of codec packs and ffdshow. Burned by the Audio Inquisition. Or you could just use JR Media Center with an Nvidia card and most of this is worked out for you. I want to congratulate the original poster. I think your guide is tremendous! I am using JRiver for the most part these days but I have several HTPCs and for two of them in particular there is much in this guide that will help me get the most out of their admittedly modest hardware.

For the rest of the HTPCs I have i3s with discrete Nvidai GPUs. JR Rvier is supplying LAV CUVID and madVR at the latest patch leve. JR Rvier is taking care of keeping my video playback at the 99 percent point without me doing much tinkering. Again Kudos to guide author. I give it five stars! Samsung 78" JS, Mits WD 43" Samsung 43ku - Lumagen Radiance XS, Martin Logan Motion 40s, Ascend Sierra 2s 58" Panny Plasma -DVDO DUO, Usher S, JBL HLS, Definitive SM45, MusicHall Marimba.

Originally Posted by Qaq I see difference between madVR and EVR on 37" from 2,5m. And its not simple EVR, its EVR CP with 32fp processing, dithering and HQ chroma sub-sampling. And I wonder why Yes, I'm the one who likes to fine-tune favorite apps. On that point, I'd like to mention that the minimum cpu requirements shouldn't really intimidate anyone.

I recommend a cpu that can score around a 1. If you are wondering how the more expensive processors fare, a core i7 k at stock scores a 6. Originally Posted by Nevcairiel Constant tinkering? Sure, setting up the advanced components does take a bit longer, and may require reading an additional guide, readme, forum thread, or something - BUT, once you're done, it works the same as any other setup.

You click play, a movie plays. Maybe some people believe they have to constantly tinker with the system to get the last 0.

I setup my stuff on the HTPC once, and about once a month i update the software on it, well at least my own filters and madVR if there was an update. That takes maybe half an hour per month, and really doesn't require much tinkering.

You could even go without the updating - once it works, it'll continue working. If there was a scale of how much of your HTPCs potential you're using, i would probably rate it somewhat like this. There are other players that allow the same or even more flexibility as MPC-HC, this was just an example. However, i do not see the need for constant tinkering, unless you want to do it.

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